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    • Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis

      This is the information that ESS Tuning threatened BimmerBoost with legal action over. Some of you may remember that last year we reported the RDsport motor supercharged and tuned by ESS failed. Asbjorn then proceeded to write threats against myself and my family if the information was not removed. BimmerBoost did not remove the information and called their bluff. We have acquired the evidence to prove the motor failed and that it was a result of the supercharger and tuning.

      We learned from a source that there was material in the oil pan. What was that material? Well, here is the answer, a broken ringland:





      What causes a broken ringland? Detonation is usually the source. Here are the types of failure that detonation usually causes:

      1. Mechanical damage (broken ringlands or rod bearing failures)

      2. Abrasion (seen on the piston crown)

      3. Overheating (piston skirts scuffed due to excess heat)

      You already saw that number 1 took place, in the pictures below you can see that numbers 2 and 3 seemed to be a factor as well:





      Those look like classic signs of detonation folks. The motor looks like it wore itself out over time which would explain the claims of the owner "driving" shortly before disassembly. Sure, it ran, but not for long according to the pictures and definitely was not healthy.

      What appears to have happened is heat built up over time as a result of detonation from possibly a lack of fuel or from the pre-ignition due to too much timing on high compression, as in, poor tuning.

      We sent these pictures to an engine builder as well as tuner, people you all know but who asked not to be named, to get their take on what happened:

      And from the tuner:


      Well there you have it folks, this motor died rather quickly detonating itself into oblivion. Why? Well, ESS tuning has not been able to have any success tuning supercharged motors outside of the factory internally stock S65. Remember, this in no way reflects on their stock motor kits which are very solid options. The issue rather is their ability to tune for setups beyond the stock motor and this is why they abandoned their Stage 3 low compression supercharged motor. Did this motor failure play a factor in it? Possibly, but either way ESS currently has a 0% success rate with any built motor S65 application.

      What many people do not realize is ESS files actually originate overseas. We have heard from more than one tuner that their base files come from the same tuner that does the tuning for G-power. Well, many of you know that G-power kits have failed. This is not odd, we would not be surprised if several kits on the market today share some file similarities that originated from the first G-power kits. This is how it works folks, there is no magic. The problem though lies in that ESS is limited in custom tuning ability as they are forced to work within the narrow confines of what they have been given. This works great for the stock motor setups, but in custom setups, the results can be disastrous as you see here.

      What makes this all the more amusing? The owner of this vehicle and ESS has engaged in a cover-up claiming nothing was wrong. Look at what the ESS file loader / US tuner Asbjorn wrote to us:

      False information? Sir, with all due respect, you are a liar and hypocrite. Every lie you have told about this motor I have collected and will now present in succession. I intend to make it crystal clear that you are willing to lie, cheat, and threaten people to maintain an illusion of tuning superiority while attacking others when you have your own failures you try to sweep under the rug. Well, this won't be swept aside. A further reminder:

      More lies. This motor was not fine, as any sane person can see. The owner claims to be "open" and "honest" about everything that takes place. Nope, just when it serves his interest as the owner is a liar, hypocrite, and has done a complete disservice to the BMW community covering this up after saying he would provide pictures:

      That quote was made in August of last year after these pictures were taken, how long does it take to post photos you already have of a motor you know failed but lied to everyone about? Some more:

      I called this bluff and said I would take photos and was even taunted with a $100 incentive to do so. He never lived up to his own challenge and well you can all see why. How about just more blatant lying?

      AutoTalent was building this car and Sam is the owner. He originally told people the motor blew and told the truth. After he apparently was chewed out by PencilGeek who wants to maintain his illusion of looking like he knows what he is doing and that he knows something about cars, he started this spin about making up a blown motor story. And what did Sam do? Well, the spineless little man decided to lie to everyone as well showing he has no integrity:

      Another lie from people with no credibility or integrity.

      Now, we are sure the owner and ESS are already steaming and wondering what can they do to spin this. Maybe try to claim this is not Robert's motor? Well, good luck with that, as Robert happened to send me in an e-mail hi-resolution photographs of his bored block, take a look here:



      That is before the supercharger. See the serial number there to the left? Feel free to match it up to the block of the failed motor:



      Same motor. That not good enough for you? You can clearly see it is a bored block and additionally that those are aftermarket pistons in the failed motor. If you look at the top you can see an arrow on the pistons, which the stock BMW pistons do not have:

      Stroker/bored piston in failed motor:



      And a stock piston:


      What led to this entire situation?

      1. Envious and arrogant owner who became upset other and much younger owners were supercharging their cars and outperforming him for far less money.

      2. No foresight to realize forced induction would be the way to go for big power.

      3. Lack of experience and knowledge with BMW tuning as the owner should have built the motor with low compression pistons to begin with but did not know what he was doing and has now paid the price.

      4. Using a tuner that has not demonstrated the ability to complete custom projects outside of a narrow framework.


      So there you have it. What makes this all worse is that these people have been attacking Active Autowerke as of late just as Gintani used to be attacked. ESS has been using their marketing tools, and I use tools with emphasis, to spread misleading information of Active Autowerke and their supercharged motors to continue to create this illusion of superiority and better reliability. I hate to burst the bubble for you folks, but every tuner has had some issues. We have not played favorites showing you the Active failure (which may be attributed to rod bearings), Gintani rod bearing failure, and now the ESS stroker failure. We would probably list a VF-Engineering failure as well but they have to get on the market first (although they have enough S54 failures that they are set in the engine failure department for some time to come).

      Ladies and Gentlemen, there is no magic tuner. There is no one super reliable superior setup. These are high compression motors being pushed to HP levels that are almost double what they come with in some cases. There will be bumps in the road. We do not wish to chastise ESS Tuning but considering how they have attacked everyone else and blatantly lied, it's time for this information to come out. We find their tactics and threats absolutely deplorable. Omar at Active Autowerke actually put it best:

      We hope you all realize this is all a game being played to control your minds. Why? For money. For the user getting a deal (like the owner in question) and for the company. It's too bad this owner cares more about discounts than coming clean. We would all understand, but instead, we see attacks and instability pointing fingers at everyone else.

      There are four vendors all selling competing supercharger kits on BimmerBoost. EAS sells VF-Engineering, Precision Sport sells Active Autowerke, Gintani sells their own, and IND-Distribution sells the ESS Tuning kit. These companies all get along and do not bash one another. IND in particular provides quality builds, support, and we fully recommend the ESS setups they sell as some of the highest quality options one can buy. Notice they don't sit around bashing each other? What is the missing element? Well, that is for you to decide and we believe you are bright enough to figure it out.

      All the motor failure pictures are posted below, analyze them yourself if you wish.


























































































































































      This article was originally published in forum thread: Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Yukohama's Avatar
        Yukohama -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostedE92M3 Click here to enlarge
        Im from Toronto, my forum name on M3post was UNNATRAL. Im using a different computer so all my pics are on my personal laptop. I built my car with IND. My car is the White E92 M3 with Atlantis Blue Brembos, Atlantis Blue Side Markers and Atlantis blue ESS manifold.
        is this your car?? taken from IND blog. it is really beautiful.

        We recently had a client from Canada make the long trip down to IND with his E92 M3 for some extra power. We installed an ESS VT-625 Supercharger with a custom BOV. The VT-625 offers 7.5psi and a 50% gain in hp over OEM NA setup.VT2-625 specs :
        Boost pressure: 7.5 PSI
        Horsepower: 625 SAE (~50% gain over stock)
        Torque: 410ft/lbs

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      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        yeah thats my car. Thanks for the compliments guys, I appreciate the good words Click here to enlarge
      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        Look guys, in all fairness, regardless of who their tuner is, they make a quality kit. They have sold quite a bit of them and so I'm sure they are doing something right. My only experience with them is with a factory S65 motor and I'm pleased with their work. I'm not a fanboy, just to be clear. I give credit where it is due. I think a motor issue should be brought to the attention of the company as well as the community, regardless of how popular/unpopular that company is. End of story. The arguments in this thread are very childish. No company is perfect.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        ESS is a good company. Nobody is saying it's not, but they have some truly annoying fanboys who make you sick of ESS. that's it Click here to enlarge

        I'm curious, why you got banned in M3post?
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostedE92M3 Click here to enlarge
        Wow. This thread is brutal. I have an ESS VT2-625 kit on my E92, and so far I've been very happy. Not saying ESS is the God of all the kits, but I never knew this happened? Are we sure it was their fault? if it was, I guess they arent good at tuning an S65 that doesn't have factory internals.

        on a side note, Im surprised at how much hate there is towards them. Before I got banned on M3post (not for being a fanboy of ESS in case your wondering, it was for something unrelated), everyone loved and still loves ESS. Im shocked. But hey, you cant please everyone and not everyone will like you. It's all good. But Im glad I stumbled onto this thread, I always wondered what happen to PencilGeek's car

        Me personally i don't hate ess, i Hate some of the fanboys who go in and attack other companies because this is how they market. Bash bash bash and make things up like selling over 300 e9x sc's are you kidding lol. I had to deal with it for a while the ess guys saying my car is weak and all. Look at my car now and faster than any of their kits except nos lol. i am glad people are starting to see what these ess fanboys are doing to the forum and how it was ruined 2 years ago. Your car looks awesome man hope to see you on a real forum.
      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
        Me personally i don't hate ess, i Hate some of the fanboys who go in and attack other companies because this is how they market. Bash bash bash and make things up like selling over 300 e9x sc's are you kidding lol. I had to deal with it for a while the ess guys saying my car is weak and all. Look at my car now and faster than any of their kits except nos lol. i am glad people are starting to see what these ess fanboys are doing to the forum and how it was ruined 2 years ago. Your car looks awesome man hope to see you on a real forum.
        I agree with you man, however with AA the only two issues I have are the following. First, they use an air to air intercooler which IMO doesn't work well with a supercharger setup. Second, the fact that they TUNE for meth. That is dangerous because if u run out of meth and u are running a meth file, you are asking for trouble. The reason I went with ESS is because they made the most power without using meth. Meth is great, but to tune for it, I donno about that. If your car hasn't had issues, then great. And your car isn't weak, M33 has cocky issues. He thinks he's king of the world, il give u that bro.

        Anyway, this forum seems to have all the mature people on it, so let's keep it that way. Cheers fellas!
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Beautiful car man. Nothing wrong with ess products, its their tactics. Like when they claimed 600rwhp through oem exhaust.
        The next part is making assumptions and deragatory comments. Very close to what you just said about AA.. Are you sure they tune for it? I ask because im pretty sure they DONT. I know akh has a switxh to turn meth on and off, and no change with tune as shown by no increase in perdormance when its on/off...
      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Beautiful car man. Nothing wrong with ess products, its their tactics. Like when they claimed 600rwhp through oem exhaust.
        The next part is making assumptions and deragatory comments. Very close to what you just said about AA.. Are you sure they tune for it? I ask because im pretty sure they DONT. I know akh has a switxh to turn meth on and off, and no change with tune as shown by no increase in perdormance when its on/off...
        Im pretty sure AA tunes/relies on meth. Either way, doesn't matter to me. And thanks for the compliment Click here to enlarge
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Dude i don't know if it's the pics or what, the rear end needs a drop i think. It stands higher than front end it seems.
      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        Dude i don't know if it's the pics or what, the rear end needs a drop i think. It stands higher than front end it seems.
        I hate slammed cars man, I wanted to keep the rake of the car. I think it makes the rear end look beefier when I have my 305s on
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostedE92M3 Click here to enlarge
        I agree with you man, however with AA the only two issues I have are the following. First, they use an air to air intercooler which IMO doesn't work well with a supercharger setup. Second, the fact that they TUNE for meth. That is dangerous because if u run out of meth and u are running a meth file, you are asking for trouble. The reason I went with ESS is because they made the most power without using meth. Meth is great, but to tune for it, I donno about that. If your car hasn't had issues, then great. And your car isn't weak, M33 has cocky issues. He thinks he's king of the world, il give u that bro.

        Anyway, this forum seems to have all the mature people on it, so let's keep it that way. Cheers fellas!
        Air to air is good if you look at it at an engineering aspect but air to water has it's flaws as well. Its a give and take for both but i like how my car has been and i am sure you happy too. As for tuning for meth they don't, only use meth for cooling the intake temps which leads to better performance. I am going to the dyno later this week i will do a video to show how the car performs with it off and the on. The only difference with meth on for is my temp stays cooler in hotter weather and with it off my temp goes up very little. Love the color i am changing my manifold color to a blue too.
      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
        Air to air is good if you look at it at an engineering aspect but air to water has it's flaws as well. Its a give and take for both but i like how my car has been and i am sure you happy too. As for tuning for meth they don't, only use meth for cooling the intake temps which leads to better performance. I am going to the dyno later this week i will do a video to show how the car performs with it off and the on. The only difference with meth on for is my temp stays cooler in hotter weather and with it off my temp goes up very little. Love the color i am changing my manifold color to a blue too.
        Agreed man. I bought a snow performance meth kit for the sole purpose of cooling..In toronto, the summer time can get f***ing brutal hot and I heat soak in some cases. As long as you arent tuned for meth and use it for cooling, its all good
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        @akh23456Thanks for your input. Its better to dispell rumors early and often, especially when promulgated by 3rd parties that dont have all the facts.As for air-air its better for thos platform because water holds rje heat longer once heatsoaked. Its more beneficial in straight dragracing applications because its short burst and most use a drain and container, pack it with ice, and rinse/repeat/ recirculate after every run.For s65, air-air is best option. Temps dont drop as much initially, but stay lower over a longer period
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        @akh23456 Thanks for your input. Its better to dispell rumors early and often, especially when promulgated by 3rd parties that dont have all the facts.As for air-air its better for thos platform because water holds rje heat longer once heatsoaked. Its more beneficial in straight dragracing applications because its short burst and most use a drain and container, pack it with ice, and rinse/repeat/ recirculate after every run.For s65, air-air is best option. Temps dont drop as much initially, but stay lower over a longer period
        totally agree with you...its even good for 30 min or longer track sessions.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostedE92M3 Click here to enlarge
        Wow. This thread is brutal. I have an ESS VT2-625 kit on my E92, and so far I've been very happy. Not saying ESS is the God of all the kits, but I never knew this happened? Are we sure it was their fault? if it was, I guess they arent good at tuning an S65 that doesn't have factory internals.

        on a side note, Im surprised at how much hate there is towards them. Before I got banned on M3post (not for being a fanboy of ESS in case your wondering, it was for something unrelated), everyone loved and still loves ESS. Im shocked. But hey, you cant please everyone and not everyone will like you. It's all good. But Im glad I stumbled onto this thread, I always wondered what happen to PencilGeek's car
        Due to the lack of info and accountability we will never have all the pieces we need to come to a decisive conclusion.

        This motor appears to have beaten itself to death. It held together pretty well due to the strength of RDsport's internals. Every tuner I sent this too said it was a tuning issue. They wanted to see more pictures as well as the oil analysis but we will never get those.

        ESS makes great kits. This is a different project that due to the owner and what was being done did not work out and the errors have been swept under the rug.

        What is funny is people criticize the time it is taking to finish my car yet this one has been sitting far longer...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostedE92M3 Click here to enlarge
        Im from Toronto, my forum name on M3post was UNNATRAL. Im using a different computer so all my pics are on my personal laptop. I built my car with IND. My car is the White E92 M3 with Atlantis Blue Brembos, Atlantis Blue Side Markers and Atlantis blue ESS manifold.
        I'm familiar with that car and believe we have pics here somewhere, it's gorgeous.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Nothing wrong with ess products, its their tactics. Like when they claimed 600rwhp through oem exhaust.
        Exactly, hate their tactics. They ruin BMW forums.

        Through the stock exhaust on pump gas no less...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostedE92M3 Click here to enlarge
        Im pretty sure AA tunes/relies on meth. Either way, doesn't matter to me. And thanks for the compliment Click here to enlarge
        They do not "rely" on it but they do tune for it.
      1. boostedE92M3's Avatar
        boostedE92M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm familiar with that car and believe we have pics here somewhere, it's gorgeous.
        thanks sticky
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        can you tell me exactly what part of this izzy wrote?
        http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/b...ct-vs-6mt.html

        seems to me, he says "I" a lot, but the "I" means you robert collins... so.. im confused.. you dont have people post for you? If only you had experience to go with your methodical data rep, i mean mis-representation...