• Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis

      This is the information that ESS Tuning threatened BimmerBoost with legal action over. Some of you may remember that last year we reported the RDsport motor supercharged and tuned by ESS failed. Asbjorn then proceeded to write threats against myself and my family if the information was not removed. BimmerBoost did not remove the information and called their bluff. We have acquired the evidence to prove the motor failed and that it was a result of the supercharger and tuning.

      We learned from a source that there was material in the oil pan. What was that material? Well, here is the answer, a broken ringland:





      What causes a broken ringland? Detonation is usually the source. Here are the types of failure that detonation usually causes:

      1. Mechanical damage (broken ringlands or rod bearing failures)

      2. Abrasion (seen on the piston crown)

      3. Overheating (piston skirts scuffed due to excess heat)

      You already saw that number 1 took place, in the pictures below you can see that numbers 2 and 3 seemed to be a factor as well:





      Those look like classic signs of detonation folks. The motor looks like it wore itself out over time which would explain the claims of the owner "driving" shortly before disassembly. Sure, it ran, but not for long according to the pictures and definitely was not healthy.

      What appears to have happened is heat built up over time as a result of detonation from possibly a lack of fuel or from the pre-ignition due to too much timing on high compression, as in, poor tuning.

      We sent these pictures to an engine builder as well as tuner, people you all know but who asked not to be named, to get their take on what happened:

      And from the tuner:


      Well there you have it folks, this motor died rather quickly detonating itself into oblivion. Why? Well, ESS tuning has not been able to have any success tuning supercharged motors outside of the factory internally stock S65. Remember, this in no way reflects on their stock motor kits which are very solid options. The issue rather is their ability to tune for setups beyond the stock motor and this is why they abandoned their Stage 3 low compression supercharged motor. Did this motor failure play a factor in it? Possibly, but either way ESS currently has a 0% success rate with any built motor S65 application.

      What many people do not realize is ESS files actually originate overseas. We have heard from more than one tuner that their base files come from the same tuner that does the tuning for G-power. Well, many of you know that G-power kits have failed. This is not odd, we would not be surprised if several kits on the market today share some file similarities that originated from the first G-power kits. This is how it works folks, there is no magic. The problem though lies in that ESS is limited in custom tuning ability as they are forced to work within the narrow confines of what they have been given. This works great for the stock motor setups, but in custom setups, the results can be disastrous as you see here.

      What makes this all the more amusing? The owner of this vehicle and ESS has engaged in a cover-up claiming nothing was wrong. Look at what the ESS file loader / US tuner Asbjorn wrote to us:

      False information? Sir, with all due respect, you are a liar and hypocrite. Every lie you have told about this motor I have collected and will now present in succession. I intend to make it crystal clear that you are willing to lie, cheat, and threaten people to maintain an illusion of tuning superiority while attacking others when you have your own failures you try to sweep under the rug. Well, this won't be swept aside. A further reminder:

      More lies. This motor was not fine, as any sane person can see. The owner claims to be "open" and "honest" about everything that takes place. Nope, just when it serves his interest as the owner is a liar, hypocrite, and has done a complete disservice to the BMW community covering this up after saying he would provide pictures:

      That quote was made in August of last year after these pictures were taken, how long does it take to post photos you already have of a motor you know failed but lied to everyone about? Some more:

      I called this bluff and said I would take photos and was even taunted with a $100 incentive to do so. He never lived up to his own challenge and well you can all see why. How about just more blatant lying?

      AutoTalent was building this car and Sam is the owner. He originally told people the motor blew and told the truth. After he apparently was chewed out by PencilGeek who wants to maintain his illusion of looking like he knows what he is doing and that he knows something about cars, he started this spin about making up a blown motor story. And what did Sam do? Well, the spineless little man decided to lie to everyone as well showing he has no integrity:

      Another lie from people with no credibility or integrity.

      Now, we are sure the owner and ESS are already steaming and wondering what can they do to spin this. Maybe try to claim this is not Robert's motor? Well, good luck with that, as Robert happened to send me in an e-mail hi-resolution photographs of his bored block, take a look here:



      That is before the supercharger. See the serial number there to the left? Feel free to match it up to the block of the failed motor:



      Same motor. That not good enough for you? You can clearly see it is a bored block and additionally that those are aftermarket pistons in the failed motor. If you look at the top you can see an arrow on the pistons, which the stock BMW pistons do not have:

      Stroker/bored piston in failed motor:



      And a stock piston:


      What led to this entire situation?

      1. Envious and arrogant owner who became upset other and much younger owners were supercharging their cars and outperforming him for far less money.

      2. No foresight to realize forced induction would be the way to go for big power.

      3. Lack of experience and knowledge with BMW tuning as the owner should have built the motor with low compression pistons to begin with but did not know what he was doing and has now paid the price.

      4. Using a tuner that has not demonstrated the ability to complete custom projects outside of a narrow framework.


      So there you have it. What makes this all worse is that these people have been attacking Active Autowerke as of late just as Gintani used to be attacked. ESS has been using their marketing tools, and I use tools with emphasis, to spread misleading information of Active Autowerke and their supercharged motors to continue to create this illusion of superiority and better reliability. I hate to burst the bubble for you folks, but every tuner has had some issues. We have not played favorites showing you the Active failure (which may be attributed to rod bearings), Gintani rod bearing failure, and now the ESS stroker failure. We would probably list a VF-Engineering failure as well but they have to get on the market first (although they have enough S54 failures that they are set in the engine failure department for some time to come).

      Ladies and Gentlemen, there is no magic tuner. There is no one super reliable superior setup. These are high compression motors being pushed to HP levels that are almost double what they come with in some cases. There will be bumps in the road. We do not wish to chastise ESS Tuning but considering how they have attacked everyone else and blatantly lied, it's time for this information to come out. We find their tactics and threats absolutely deplorable. Omar at Active Autowerke actually put it best:

      We hope you all realize this is all a game being played to control your minds. Why? For money. For the user getting a deal (like the owner in question) and for the company. It's too bad this owner cares more about discounts than coming clean. We would all understand, but instead, we see attacks and instability pointing fingers at everyone else.

      There are four vendors all selling competing supercharger kits on BimmerBoost. EAS sells VF-Engineering, Precision Sport sells Active Autowerke, Gintani sells their own, and IND-Distribution sells the ESS Tuning kit. These companies all get along and do not bash one another. IND in particular provides quality builds, support, and we fully recommend the ESS setups they sell as some of the highest quality options one can buy. Notice they don't sit around bashing each other? What is the missing element? Well, that is for you to decide and we believe you are bright enough to figure it out.

      All the motor failure pictures are posted below, analyze them yourself if you wish.

























































































































































      This article was originally published in forum thread: Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 175 Comments
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The tuners in question know what is going on. Ever wonder why AJ backed down from the tuner shootout? Because he can only work with files in a limited fashion.

        All the real work is done overseas NOT by him. Yes, I know he is originally from Europe.
        Sticky, I own the test car that ESS used when they developed their kit for the e46 M3. They used my car as a test car for the VT1 455 kit, same as with the VT2 500 and VT2 550. AJ tuned my car from stock to supercharged through all stages. I think this is kinda strange discussion...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        Sticky, I own the test car that ESS used when they developed their kit for the e46 M3. They used my car as a test car for the VT1 455 kit, same as with the VT2 500 and VT2 550. AJ tuned my car from stock to supercharged through all stages. I think this is kinda strange discussion...
        I understand you saw him working with your car. It would seem the base files for the supercharger setups originated with the G-power tuner and then "spread" out...
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        so G-Power kits are moving bombs since they have the very same tune ?
      1. evolve's Avatar
        evolve -
        It's quite depressing to see the never ending tuner wars.

        You can expect a few things here and there with any tuner but this just has just gone on for long enough.

        You know who can end this?

        You - The public, by not accepting the propoganda from where ever it is you think it comes from.

        This has all just taken the fun out of the BMW tuning scene.

        I guarantee you others just sit back and laugh at the levels of maturity shown.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        It's quite depressing to see the never ending tuner wars.

        You can expect a few things here and there with any tuner but this just has just gone on for long enough.

        You know who can end this?

        You - The public, by not accepting the propoganda from where ever it is you think it comes from.

        This has all just taken the fun out of the BMW tuning scene.

        I guarantee you others just sit back and laugh at the levels of maturity shown.
        I agree SAL Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        You know who can end this?

        You - The public, by not accepting the propoganda from where ever it is you think it comes from.
        Unfortunately, the public is under the control of the outlets where they get the information. So, even if we try to call BS or out it we, literally I'm referring to the members here, are the only ones not accepting the propaganda but many others don't even know what is going on or discuss it.
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        It's quite depressing to see the never ending tuner wars.

        You can expect a few things here and there with any tuner but this just has just gone on for long enough.

        You know who can end this?

        You - The public, by not accepting the propoganda from where ever it is you think it comes from.

        This has all just taken the fun out of the BMW tuning scene.

        I guarantee you others just sit back and laugh at the levels of maturity shown.
        So true.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        So true.
        It is, but it's also a lot easier to sit back and tell everyone to act mature rather than have the courage to act and challenge the propaganda.

        We are the public, we didn't like what was taking place, and we are trying to change it.
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It is, but it's also a lot easier to sit back and tell everyone to act mature rather than have the courage to act and challenge the propaganda.

        We are the public, we didn't like what was taking place, and we are trying to change it.
        I see what you mean and i agree with you. It's just that too many threads gets heated/personal and then falls through whats readable for people thats not in it personal.

        Just my 2 cent.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        I see what you mean and i agree with you. It's just that too many threads gets heated/personal and then falls through whats readable for people thats not in it personal.

        Just my 2 cent.
        I agree with you.

        To be honest, this thread is beautiful and pretty subdued compared to discussions in other places. Without certain elements, we can actually discuss the topic rather than lob insults.
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        it's easy for you guys to say $#@! like "oh its just so immature for you all to argue", when you aren't the ones spending 20k on a supercharger kit.

        Once you get yourself an S65 M3 and decide to supercharge it, you'll want to know why ESS lied about their dyno's and what the track record is; without all the lying.

        So basically, it's immature for you to argue over something you have no experience with, but not for the guys with blown motors and underpowered cars.
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        it's easy for you guys to say $#@! like "oh its just so immature for you all to argue", when you aren't the ones spending 20k on a supercharger kit.

        Once you get yourself an S65 M3 and decide to supercharge it, you'll want to know why ESS lied about their dyno's and what the track record is; without all the lying.

        So basically, it's immature for you to argue over something you have no experience with, but not for the guys with blown motors and underpowered cars.
        I'm not saying it's immature to argue. I'm saying it's immature to argue immature if you get what i mean. Things like you mentioned above should obviously be descussed, but in a healthy way without everyone getting deffensive but cunstructive.

        God i sounds like a politician Click here to enlarge
      1. PEI330Ci's Avatar
        PEI330Ci -
        I had a tuning "incident" that cost me many thousands of dollars.

        Very very few people know about it, and even less know exactly what happened. At the end of it all I decided I didn't want to get involved in a public exchange and decided to focus on future projects.

        So yes, we all get to decide how we want to conduct ourselves when something goes wrong. Unfortunately, most of the general public's behavioral models are based on TV and Movie personas. Think about that one for a minute.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PEI330Ci Click here to enlarge
        I had a tuning "incident" that cost me many thousands of dollars.
        There have been some small and big bumps during your projects.

        The thing is, you always mention there have been bumps.
      1. PEI330Ci's Avatar
        PEI330Ci -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        There have been some small and big bumps during your projects.

        The thing is, you always mention there have been bumps.
        I've been told by a number of people that I have the worst luck. The funny thing is, I don't see it. I think that I've got really good luck, and continue to find meaning in challenging experiences.

        Sure I mention there have been issues, but I don't like to sling mud.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PEI330Ci Click here to enlarge
        Sure I mention there have been issues, but I don't like to sling mud.
        No you do not, and nobody ever slings any at you because there is no reason to. There have been some bumps, some huge ones actually, but you were upfront, learned, and life goes on.
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Sorry for bumping this thread once again, but I looked at the pictures again... Isn't it the lower ring that has failed? Wouldn't it be the upper ring that should fail if it had something to do with detonation? My thoughts is that the first barrier against the burning chamber is still intact.. This would explain why the engine would still run until they opened it up...
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        Sorry for bumping this thread once again, but I looked at the pictures again... Isn't it the lower ring that has failed? Wouldn't it be the upper ring that should fail if it had something to do with detonation? My thoughts is that the first barrier against the burning chamber is still intact.. This would explain why the engine would still run until they opened it up...
        usually when the first ring goes, the second ring fails right away as its not meant to hold the pressures of the cylinder really...the first one is designed for that. Who knows, maybe there is a hairline crack around the first ring somewhere that isnt seen in the photo?

        As i mentioned before ive detonated porsche engines before and almost always broke the second ring, but not always the first one..
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        First ring may be broken but hard to tell in the picture. Detonation will effect both the rings and the piston as seen in the picture, piston top looks cooked; doesnt look like a smooth burn to me.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        Sorry for bumping this thread once again, but I looked at the pictures again... Isn't it the lower ring that has failed? Wouldn't it be the upper ring that should fail if it had something to do with detonation? My thoughts is that the first barrier against the burning chamber is still intact.. This would explain why the engine would still run until they opened it up...
        The second ring or ringland breaking is almost always a sign of detonation: http://www.enginelogics.com/detonation.html

        If I were to look at a piston with a second broken ring land, my immediate suspicion would be detonation.