• Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis

      This is the information that ESS Tuning threatened BimmerBoost with legal action over. Some of you may remember that last year we reported the RDsport motor supercharged and tuned by ESS failed. Asbjorn then proceeded to write threats against myself and my family if the information was not removed. BimmerBoost did not remove the information and called their bluff. We have acquired the evidence to prove the motor failed and that it was a result of the supercharger and tuning.

      We learned from a source that there was material in the oil pan. What was that material? Well, here is the answer, a broken ringland:





      What causes a broken ringland? Detonation is usually the source. Here are the types of failure that detonation usually causes:

      1. Mechanical damage (broken ringlands or rod bearing failures)

      2. Abrasion (seen on the piston crown)

      3. Overheating (piston skirts scuffed due to excess heat)

      You already saw that number 1 took place, in the pictures below you can see that numbers 2 and 3 seemed to be a factor as well:





      Those look like classic signs of detonation folks. The motor looks like it wore itself out over time which would explain the claims of the owner "driving" shortly before disassembly. Sure, it ran, but not for long according to the pictures and definitely was not healthy.

      What appears to have happened is heat built up over time as a result of detonation from possibly a lack of fuel or from the pre-ignition due to too much timing on high compression, as in, poor tuning.

      We sent these pictures to an engine builder as well as tuner, people you all know but who asked not to be named, to get their take on what happened:

      And from the tuner:


      Well there you have it folks, this motor died rather quickly detonating itself into oblivion. Why? Well, ESS tuning has not been able to have any success tuning supercharged motors outside of the factory internally stock S65. Remember, this in no way reflects on their stock motor kits which are very solid options. The issue rather is their ability to tune for setups beyond the stock motor and this is why they abandoned their Stage 3 low compression supercharged motor. Did this motor failure play a factor in it? Possibly, but either way ESS currently has a 0% success rate with any built motor S65 application.

      What many people do not realize is ESS files actually originate overseas. We have heard from more than one tuner that their base files come from the same tuner that does the tuning for G-power. Well, many of you know that G-power kits have failed. This is not odd, we would not be surprised if several kits on the market today share some file similarities that originated from the first G-power kits. This is how it works folks, there is no magic. The problem though lies in that ESS is limited in custom tuning ability as they are forced to work within the narrow confines of what they have been given. This works great for the stock motor setups, but in custom setups, the results can be disastrous as you see here.

      What makes this all the more amusing? The owner of this vehicle and ESS has engaged in a cover-up claiming nothing was wrong. Look at what the ESS file loader / US tuner Asbjorn wrote to us:

      False information? Sir, with all due respect, you are a liar and hypocrite. Every lie you have told about this motor I have collected and will now present in succession. I intend to make it crystal clear that you are willing to lie, cheat, and threaten people to maintain an illusion of tuning superiority while attacking others when you have your own failures you try to sweep under the rug. Well, this won't be swept aside. A further reminder:

      More lies. This motor was not fine, as any sane person can see. The owner claims to be "open" and "honest" about everything that takes place. Nope, just when it serves his interest as the owner is a liar, hypocrite, and has done a complete disservice to the BMW community covering this up after saying he would provide pictures:

      That quote was made in August of last year after these pictures were taken, how long does it take to post photos you already have of a motor you know failed but lied to everyone about? Some more:

      I called this bluff and said I would take photos and was even taunted with a $100 incentive to do so. He never lived up to his own challenge and well you can all see why. How about just more blatant lying?

      AutoTalent was building this car and Sam is the owner. He originally told people the motor blew and told the truth. After he apparently was chewed out by PencilGeek who wants to maintain his illusion of looking like he knows what he is doing and that he knows something about cars, he started this spin about making up a blown motor story. And what did Sam do? Well, the spineless little man decided to lie to everyone as well showing he has no integrity:

      Another lie from people with no credibility or integrity.

      Now, we are sure the owner and ESS are already steaming and wondering what can they do to spin this. Maybe try to claim this is not Robert's motor? Well, good luck with that, as Robert happened to send me in an e-mail hi-resolution photographs of his bored block, take a look here:



      That is before the supercharger. See the serial number there to the left? Feel free to match it up to the block of the failed motor:



      Same motor. That not good enough for you? You can clearly see it is a bored block and additionally that those are aftermarket pistons in the failed motor. If you look at the top you can see an arrow on the pistons, which the stock BMW pistons do not have:

      Stroker/bored piston in failed motor:



      And a stock piston:


      What led to this entire situation?

      1. Envious and arrogant owner who became upset other and much younger owners were supercharging their cars and outperforming him for far less money.

      2. No foresight to realize forced induction would be the way to go for big power.

      3. Lack of experience and knowledge with BMW tuning as the owner should have built the motor with low compression pistons to begin with but did not know what he was doing and has now paid the price.

      4. Using a tuner that has not demonstrated the ability to complete custom projects outside of a narrow framework.


      So there you have it. What makes this all worse is that these people have been attacking Active Autowerke as of late just as Gintani used to be attacked. ESS has been using their marketing tools, and I use tools with emphasis, to spread misleading information of Active Autowerke and their supercharged motors to continue to create this illusion of superiority and better reliability. I hate to burst the bubble for you folks, but every tuner has had some issues. We have not played favorites showing you the Active failure (which may be attributed to rod bearings), Gintani rod bearing failure, and now the ESS stroker failure. We would probably list a VF-Engineering failure as well but they have to get on the market first (although they have enough S54 failures that they are set in the engine failure department for some time to come).

      Ladies and Gentlemen, there is no magic tuner. There is no one super reliable superior setup. These are high compression motors being pushed to HP levels that are almost double what they come with in some cases. There will be bumps in the road. We do not wish to chastise ESS Tuning but considering how they have attacked everyone else and blatantly lied, it's time for this information to come out. We find their tactics and threats absolutely deplorable. Omar at Active Autowerke actually put it best:

      We hope you all realize this is all a game being played to control your minds. Why? For money. For the user getting a deal (like the owner in question) and for the company. It's too bad this owner cares more about discounts than coming clean. We would all understand, but instead, we see attacks and instability pointing fingers at everyone else.

      There are four vendors all selling competing supercharger kits on BimmerBoost. EAS sells VF-Engineering, Precision Sport sells Active Autowerke, Gintani sells their own, and IND-Distribution sells the ESS Tuning kit. These companies all get along and do not bash one another. IND in particular provides quality builds, support, and we fully recommend the ESS setups they sell as some of the highest quality options one can buy. Notice they don't sit around bashing each other? What is the missing element? Well, that is for you to decide and we believe you are bright enough to figure it out.

      All the motor failure pictures are posted below, analyze them yourself if you wish.

























































































































































      This article was originally published in forum thread: Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis started by Sticky View original post
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      1. TaZaM3's Avatar
        TaZaM3 -
        Another thing I wanted to add about Robert. In his emails to me he kept saying he is neutral lmao and doesnt work for ESS. Yet every week he is personally dynoing someone else's M3 with all this data trying to prove other kits wrong. The guy takes a weather station everywhere with him lol...

        An independent AA customer took his car to a dynopack dyno and posted his results. A week later PG made Drew take his car to a dynopack dyno and do runs as well to knock down the AA car. How dirty and neutral is that?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        Another thing I wanted to add about Robert. In his emails to me he kept saying he is neutral lmao and doesnt work for ESS. Yet every week he is personally dynoing someone else's M3 with all this data trying to prove other kits wrong. The guy takes a weather station everywhere with him lol...

        An independent AA customer took his car to a dynopack dyno and posted his results. A week later PG made Drew take his car to a dynopack dyno and do runs as well to knock down the AA car. How dirty and neutral is that?
        How about when Drew posted solid Gintani dyno runs last year Robert drove his car down from Northern California to try to discredit the dynos? This is when the problems started as his car was in the low 500's and on its way out. Yet Mr. neutral never posted those dyno runs.

        And Drew suddenly forgets the extremes these guy would go to in order to put him down? Forgets he insulted him as a father and said he takes poor care of his family: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...782#post139782

        I would never forgive something like that but hey, what does it matter if someone insults you directly as a man and says you do a poor job raising your children when a few thousand dollars over a supercharger kit is at stake?
      1. TaZaM3's Avatar
        TaZaM3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        How about when Drew posted solid Gintani dyno runs last year Robert drove his car down from Northern California to try to discredit the dynos? This is when the problems started as his car was in the low 500's and on its way out. Yet Mr. neutral never posted those dyno runs.

        And Drew suddenly forgets the extremes these guy would go to in order to put him down? Forgets he insulted him as a father and said he takes poor care of his family: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...782#post139782

        I would never forgive something like that but hey, what does it matter if someone insults you directly as a man and says you do a poor job raising your children when a few thousand dollars over a supercharger kit is at stake?
        Yes its unbelievable how all of these ESS guys are the same, plain delusional. Make up things, lie out of their teeth etc...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        Yes its unbelievable how all of these ESS guys are the same, plain delusional. Make up things, lie out of their teeth etc...
        I really don't get it but I think it stems at the top. They take their forum marketing so seriously that they have their sponsored cars (PG, DLSJ5, IMG, M33) who they market through just try to destroy and attack anyone else.

        It's old, we are all sick of it. Gintani, now Active Autowerke, give it a rest.
      1. turbo325ii's Avatar
        turbo325ii -
        Interesting thread... I had ringlands break on my stock m52b28 recently... But it had nothing to do with tuning... Just too much heat and I was running too much boost on pump gas lol.
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        Well I was permantently banned from Bimmerpost's engine sub-forum yesterday with no warnings. I did not break any rules at all and I know exactly why Ive been banned.

        Recently a few ESS guys like IMG and m33 have been on every AA thread bashing their power numbers. This annoyed me so i decided to start posting there. Well we go into it a few times and the ESS guys always went to personal attacks instead of talking facts. I posted a VT600 dyno that wasnt even making 470whp and I also quoted Asbjorn's older posts mentioning how their high hp dyno cars have special tunes. They quickly deleted the thread after I posted that (the thread was going on for 3 days prior to that).

        Again recently img mainly went on the attack and I again posted the dyno with AJ's quotes. Boom an hour later I was banned! LMAO.... It is obvious ESS is making demands and getting away with silencing things they do not like.

        When all of this was happening Robert (PG) was emailing me arguments. I didnt want anything to do with him and simply asked him if he works for ESS as it looks like it. He started firing off emails with pages of stupid questions trying to act smarter then he is. I barely read them and I pretty much brushed it all off.

        yea man i hear you i saw the thread and got into to words with some of those trolls. I also got some infractions for being a "troll" .Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbo325ii Click here to enlarge
        I had ringlands break on my stock m52b28 recently.
        If it is the second ringland I have heard that is pretty much always detonation.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbo325ii Click here to enlarge
        But it had nothing to do with tuning... Just too much heat and I was running too much boost on pump gas lol.
        You tuned it to run too much boost...
      1. TaZaM3's Avatar
        TaZaM3 -
        Pencildick is on the attack at E46 now. He didn't like me calling out ESS so of course he had to take his whole day to type up a fee pages of manipulation again. Ive never seen someone invest so much time and thought into something like this. I thought I was bad but this guy makes me look like nothing.

        He has his way if bending the truth with lots of words, it's incredible!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        Pencildick is on the attack at E46 now. He didn't like me calling out ESS so of course he had to take his whole day to type up a fee pages of manipulation again. Ive never seen someone invest so much time and thought into something like this. I thought I was bad but this guy makes me look like nothing.

        He has his way if bending the truth with lots of words, it's incredible!
        Dude, DUDE:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Roman@ESS Click here to enlarge
        Im sorry you got banned from M3post Taza but im sure it had to do with you making over the top slanderous posts like you have done in this thread. Some websites allow this behavior and some do not. I would think being a savvy internet car forum member you would learn from the mistakes your friends have made when it comes to posting slander in vendors threads.
        I mean, HOLY $#@!.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        Pencildick is on the attack at E46 now. He didn't like me calling out ESS so of course he had to take his whole day to type up a fee pages of manipulation again. Ive never seen someone invest so much time and thought into something like this. I thought I was bad but this guy makes me look like nothing.

        He has his way if bending the truth with lots of words, it's incredible!
        You shut him up pretty fast with the blown motor pics, lol.
      1. ScrotieMcBoogerBalls's Avatar
        ScrotieMcBoogerBalls -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Dude, DUDE:



        I mean, HOLY $#@!.
        link?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PencilGeek Click here to enlarge
        Please post whatever proof you have that my motor blew. Don't say Sam told you it was blown, or Zolti told you...because I already know they didn't and that will be the first sign to everybody that you are lying. Sam already posted on a public forum that anybody who says my motor was blown is a liar -- and that would include you. Instead, please post the pictures Taza -- post the pictures I invited you to take on the many times you were there over the 5 months that my motor sat without being disturbed. If you have no pictures, then you are a liar. Then accept the dyno challenge and put your credibility on the line. If you can't accept the challenge, you're a liar whose afraid of being further humiliated.
        I got your proof right here $#@!: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...714#post153714

        Now run away with your tail between your legs and leave the BMW community alone once for all you pathetic lying hypocritical manipulative waste of space.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ScrotieMcBoogerBalls Click here to enlarge
        link?
        Have fun: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...5&postcount=71
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        What a bunch of moronic losers. Do you guys REALLY have nothing to do with your lives other than pick at each other about which supercharger kit is better? I mean are your dicks that small? Im not talking about all of you, just the some that keep taking this $#@! to new levels.


        I have by far never seen the incredible amount of bull$#@! that gets spewed on any kind of car forum, EVER. Its like these guys have no lives, no girlfriends or wives, or they do but they stopped putting out so they just got into dissecting each others kits and bashing each other. I'll get whatever kit I feel like getting...and whatever..if its a little down on hp I could really give a $#@! less if it makes the exact number claimed or not. Im not gonna sit there and start blaming dynos and the weather station was bugged or this that and the other thing. $#@! it...I dont even have an M3 and this is getting so old and useless that it even pisses ME off.
      1. ScrotieMcBoogerBalls's Avatar
        ScrotieMcBoogerBalls -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        $#@!.
        The BMW community sucks.
        Most divided community there is.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ScrotieMcBoogerBalls Click here to enlarge
        $#@!.
        The BMW community sucks.
        Most divided community there is.
        True but we have a good one here.

        It's just a crazy old man with too much time on his hands pissed off at the rest of the world. He blew his motor, claimed it wasn't blown and tried to lie to everyone, that's about it. Credibility gone and now hopefully ESS and their fanboys can stop attacking everyone else and acting like their $#@! does not stink.
      1. ScrotieMcBoogerBalls's Avatar
        ScrotieMcBoogerBalls -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        True but we have a good one here.

        It's just a crazy old man with too much time on his hands pissed off at the rest of the world. He blew his motor, claimed it wasn't blown and tried to lie to everyone, that's about it. Credibility gone and now hopefully ESS and their fanboys can stop attacking everyone else and acting like their $#@! does not stink.
        Yes, that is true.
        He seems like he has too much time on his hands.
        But then again, we are giving him a lot of attention too.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
        I'll get whatever kit I feel like getting...and whatever..if its a little down on hp I could really give a $#@! less if it makes the exact number claimed or not. Im not gonna sit there and start blaming dynos and the weather station was bugged or this that and the other thing. $#@! it...I dont even have an M3 and this is getting so old and useless that it even pisses ME off.
        This guy sits around creating pie charts and inventing equations, no, I am not sh1tting you, to try to prove his kits superiority. It's insane, just enjoy your kit and pat others on the back for making their own choice. Try to HELP, not hurt them, and respect the diversity of different approaches.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ScrotieMcBoogerBalls Click here to enlarge
        Yes, that is true.
        He seems like he has too much time on his hands.
        But then again, we are giving him a lot of attention too.
        Bud, he's probably crying right now or going through menopause.

        You don't know the half of it but could care less about the attention, the truth needs to get out there.
      1. ScrotieMcBoogerBalls's Avatar
        ScrotieMcBoogerBalls -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Bud, he's probably crying right now or going through menopause.

        You don't know the half of it but could care less about the attention, the truth needs to get out there.
        True that.
        I stayt away from that side of thigns.