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    • 10 second E46 M3 coming soon? HPF allegedly sets new E46 60 foot record at 1.55

      HPF has been marketing their new setups aimed at getting better launches at the strip pretty heavily as of late. Chris, the owner, took the HPF M3 to the drag strip to test out the "anti-lag" setup which allows boost to be built at the line. The car allegedly hit 1.55 and we use that term because no slips were posted. We are not doubting it, but HPF (and others) need to get in the habit of posting timeslips when making such claims. Check out the video below and if the car did not have issues shifting it likely would have been a 10 second pass.



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      1. 600whp S4's Avatar
        600whp S4 -
        700whp + gutted m3 should be deep into the Nines with a 1.55 60 ft
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
        700whp + gutted m3 should be deep into the Nines with a 1.55 60 ft
        It should be... which should also make 10's easy but well those haven't come that easily. He's down on power, considering he is trapping basically what a Gintani Stage 2 DCT E92 M3 traps.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nickr519 Click here to enlarge
        ? not sure if serious
        I drive a riced tt 300zx, doubt my driver skills could break mid 12's on race gas (465whp@18psi), no money for slicks, also don't want to threadjack
        No need for slicks. I don't run them.
      1. gringotegra's Avatar
        gringotegra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
        700whp + gutted m3 should be deep into the Nines with a 1.55 60 ft

        The gutted M3 still has a full road race cage not a standard 10pt youd have in drag racing.. i know for a fact it still weighs 3300-3400lbs with driver...its not as gutted as you might think...


        I would say 9's yes but not deep into the 9's.....


        You know i was thinking this car sits very low at the front, ive seen it up close... im almost wondering if the car stages off the front bumper? they require 3" of clearance at the front bumper in NHRA... old school trick to cut some time off your car! Im not saying they are doing that just saying i know the car sits low and it could be possible...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gringotegra Click here to enlarge
        You know i was thinking this car sits very low at the front, ive seen it up close... im almost wondering if the car stages off the front bumper? they require 3" of clearance at the front bumper in NHRA... old school trick to cut some time off your car! Im not saying they are doing that just saying i know the car sits low and it could be possible...
        It would have to be VERY low.
      1. PEI330Ci's Avatar
        PEI330Ci -
        You'd have to do some serious work to the front suspension to get the car to sit @ 3" and handle properly. On an E46, this involves changing the pivot points on the control arms, and adding spacers to where the steering arms connect to the wheel hubs. From the pictures I've seen, neither has been done on this car, so it is definitely higher than 3" under the subframe. The rake of the car may have the front lip sitting a bit lower...but not by much.

        It's a moot point though, because if you stage the car with the front end tripping the starting beams...you still have 1320 feet to move the car to the finish....same ET.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PEI330Ci Click here to enlarge
        It's a moot point though, because if you stage the car with the front end tripping the starting beams...you still have 1320 feet to move the car to the finish....same ET.
        But possibly inflated trap.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        So what're they doing to build boost off the line? This is a 6MT I assume??
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        So what're they doing to build boost off the line? This is a 6MT I assume??
        See here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...ut-drag-racing

        Yes, 6MT.
      1. MSpiredM3's Avatar
        MSpiredM3 -
        Shame on you for not posting your source for this info!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
        Shame on you for not posting your source for this info!
        Uh, you weren't able to figure out the source was youtube from the embedded youtube video which also serves as a link? Click here to enlarge
      1. gringotegra's Avatar
        gringotegra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PEI330Ci Click here to enlarge
        You'd have to do some serious work to the front suspension to get the car to sit @ 3" and handle properly. On an E46, this involves changing the pivot points on the control arms, and adding spacers to where the steering arms connect to the wheel hubs. From the pictures I've seen, neither has been done on this car, so it is definitely higher than 3" under the subframe. The rake of the car may have the front lip sitting a bit lower...but not by much.

        It's a moot point though, because if you stage the car with the front end tripping the starting beams...you still have 1320 feet to move the car to the finish....same ET.
        I just know the front splitter on that car is low, but dont know if its low enough..

        also if the front end is low enough that you stage on the front of the bumper and if its low all the way to the tires, there is a good chance it will stay staged until after the front tires.. if that is the case youd have a solid 3 feet head start and trust me that can make a Huge difference in ET at the track... if any of you have a Vbox and run at the track, if you dont add the 1 ft rollout option in the Vbox it will be off 0.2-0.3 vs the track time...

        Again im not saying HPF did that at all... Was just explaining..
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gringotegra Click here to enlarge
        will stay staged until after the front tires.. if that is the case youd have a solid 3 feet head start and trust me that can make a Huge difference in ET at the track
        Yep, this is essentially the same thing that staging shallow does and it does make a difference due to getting a head start.
      1. gringotegra's Avatar
        gringotegra -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yep, this is essentially the same thing that staging shallow does and it does make a difference due to getting a head start.

        Exactly.... when i light up the 2nd stage light i roll in as slow as i can ... a few inches can change things alot
      1. Bimmerdude's Avatar
        Bimmerdude -
        ^+1, in competitive brackets guys take staging very seriously because of the difference a couple inches can make in the ET.

        And Adam, I think if the car launched hard enough it could stage on the bumper and lift the bumper above the start beam so the wheel would actually trip it, giving an extra couple feet.
      1. gringotegra's Avatar
        gringotegra -
        Its always fun to have Staging Duals!!!
      1. ccsykes's Avatar
        ccsykes -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by spdu4ea Click here to enlarge
        I know he made 100s of passes with his Supra so he's no rookie.
        It's the clutch guys.. we both have the OS Giken 3 disc and I found it to be extremely tricky to operate. I'm thinking about re-installing my CDV its so bad.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ccsykes Click here to enlarge
        It's the clutch guys.. we both have the OS Giken 3 disc and I found it to be extremely tricky to operate. I'm thinking about re-installing my CDV its so bad.
        Why is it so much tougher? Sounds like it will take some time to get it down.
      1. ccsykes's Avatar
        ccsykes -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Why is it so much tougher? Sounds like it will take some time to get it down.
        It just wants to grab, with the 3 discs it is extremely hard to find a sweet spot and be consistent. It's unpredictable.
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        i got bored with my phone, decided to clock the second run (the last one before the trans gave up) and I got an 11.1 pass. If its accurate..its going to be one fast car..