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    • DCT Build Part IX - SSP billet DCT fluid/oil pan - major part of cooling system upgrade

      As promised in the previous update on the DCT build, we are bringing you details on the cooling system. What you see here is the SSP billet pan and this has been the major hold-up in the completion of the cooling system having undergone multiple designs. What this pan offers is an additional 2 liters of fluid capacity, cooling fins to dissipate heat, additional cooling through an external source, and better access for fluid changes.

      With more material on the bottom as well as cooling fins this will act as a giant heat sink of sorts similar to the cooling system upgrades SSP offers for the GTR. One of the main obstacles for the DCT is heat build up and the idea is to get as much fluid out as quickly as possible. Even if the hardware is upgraded if you can not cool it is just a waste as it will be burned up just as easily as the stock hardware.

      The pan will be able to connect to an external upgraded cooling source where the additional fluid can be pumped to. It will also offer easier access to change the DCT fluid when necessary. This billet pan forms the major portion of the cooling system upgrade which will retail for somewhere in between $2300-$3000 and will be compatible with all current BMW DCT transmission.












      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
        Who said anything about a product release? Of course significant testing would have to occur before a "package" or "kit" would be released.

        Here, I'll make it simple, since apparently I'm having a tough time reading the thread: when did Sticky pay Gintani in full for his motor build, and when did they finish the first motor build attempt? Since you've followed along more closely, I'm sure you can help with those dates.
        You need to understand that there are three people all basically doing the Stage III's at the same time. So basically three setups got rebuilt. Mine never even got to start I don't think before having to be rebuilt although they put the motor back in and everything but there was no point.

        The motor was paid for back when I sold my original kit. Then after that I paid for the YSI, new manifold, new exhaust, new meth system, cage, racing seats, gauges, labor, and all kinds of other stuff. I don't even know how this all keeps adding up but it does the longer the car sits there. Next thing will be a new trans, lines, etc.

        Did Gintani take longer than expected? Yep, way longer. But at least they are getting it right.
      1. c32AMG-DTM's Avatar
        c32AMG-DTM -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You need to understand that there are three people all basically doing the Stage III's at the same time. So basically three setups got rebuilt. Mine never even got to start I don't think before having to be rebuilt although they put the motor back in and everything but there was no point.

        The motor was paid for back when I sold my original kit. Then after that I paid for the YSI, new manifold, new exhaust, new meth system, cage, racing seats, gauges, labor, and all kinds of other stuff. I don't even know how this all keeps adding up but it does the longer the car sits there. Next thing will be a new trans, lines, etc.

        Did Gintani take longer than expected? Yep, way longer. But at least they are getting it right.
        Thank you - and yes it's commendable that they (Gintani) are seeing this through to the end, regardless of the duration.

        I just wonder if the motor-side of things had been ready once SSP first finished the trans, if SSP might have been more receptive to helping out if any issues were encountered. I know from your comments there were of course valid reasons why the rebuilt trans sat around for a year and a half uninstalled/not running, but I can also see why that might make the trans builder reluctant to do anything if/when something goes wrong.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
        I just wonder if the motor-side of things had been ready once SSP first finished the trans, if SSP might have been more receptive to helping out if any issues were encountered
        It was finished. Nobody knew another motor build would take place at that time. We ended up waiting on SSP for over a year doing nothing with the motor really until later the sleeve design was figured out by one of the other guys.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
        but I can also see why that might make the trans builder reluctant to do anything if/when something goes wrong.
        Why? If the trans is done what is the problem? We plugged in an OEM trans that had been sitting around and it works fine so I don't see the issue.
      1. PEI330Ci's Avatar
        PEI330Ci -
        This is just a presumption, but from my experience with other control units, there is usually a maximum allowable error for certain parameters.

        I wonder if the total clutch package thickness might be an issue, as the "teach in" values would read different from OEM then. If you had access to them, it would be easy to stack and measure outside of the transmission....
      1. NikB316's Avatar
        NikB316 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge



        BTW -- The C32 AMG is an embarrassment to AMG cars, especially when you consider the M113 5.4L supercharged V8 was out at the same time.

        LOL the C32 was one of the biggest POS put out not only by AMG but Benz as a whole. I used to rag on that car all the time. Good memories. I give that poster credit for publically admitting to owning one.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        This isn't about the C32 guys who cares.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Updates?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin Click here to enlarge
        Updates?
        This make me laugh.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This make me laugh.
        Expected from this build I suppose.
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        updates?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
        updates?
        Updates were posted in another thread.
      1. bdtsulev's Avatar
        bdtsulev -
        Is there going to a motor build thread with pics and what not at some point?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bdtsulev Click here to enlarge
        Is there going to a motor build thread with pics and what not at some point?
        No the motor build happened a while ago.