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  • Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
    Today, 04:57 PM
    Well MMP is hiding out on E90, and posted that he made a whopping 610WHP at 34 psi, no logs posted, not dyno graph posted. This is after testing, and tuning for over a month, with some of the best tuners on the platform lending a helping hand. Needless to to say, we at VTT are not surprised. His data is also very very suspect. He wants us to believe he has less than 1 psi pressure drop across the entire system (not possible), use cheap sensors, get bad data. So for $3799 you get 610WHHP at 34 psi at 12 degrees of timing, and the joy of rearranging your entire engine bay. Or $3998 for Stage 2+, and inlets for 681WHP at 27 psi, and 10 degrees of timing. Hmmmmm..:think: Back to drawing board ole buddy. Hate me for posting this if you want. But this proves just about every argument I tried to make about that set up, and most people called me a hater. I might be abrasive but I know N54 turbo upgrades. Have a good 4th people...:usaflag: Quote from E90: "So I went to the dyno Friday before I installed the new exhaust components and did some tuning with the JB4 on the dyno for about 1.5 hrs. Results were not as expected and basically made 610whp on high boost. for the boost I was pushing it was on the order of 100whp less than expected. I did not touch vanos but I recently got new vanos tables to try out from my buddy Wedge that seem to have a large effect on power so plan on going to the dyno to retest. It may need a design iteration though to change out the turbine wheel if I cant get more power out of the turbos. Its weird because the data shows just less than 2:1 BP at 30+ psi boost, also EGT was between 1100-1150F for all high HP runs WGDC is below 75 even pushing up to 34psi of boost at redline, compressor outlet temp is not super high (i.e. in an acceptable efficiency range), running 9-12deg timing 12.5 AFR. IAT was 100F using small meth nozzle for chemical cooling. compressor pressure ratios were also in check with very little pressure loss (<1psi) through all the boost piping, intercooler, and throttle. The turbos make boost to redline without a problem at all, its just not translating to power on the dyno/in the engine with my preliminary dyno runs. I think vanos has alot to do with it because at higher backpressures due to higher boost, if vanos is not tuned right to minimize valve overlap, you will get alot of power robbing exhaust reversion from the valve overlap period. should have more results soon with new vanos changes but dont know if that will ultimately get me to the 700whp+ mark I need to be (probably not) so like I said may require upgrading the turbine size but wont know until I try more tuning and also try a flash only tune as JB4 was getting some pretty bad oscillations in upper RPM boost control that were difficult to manage on the dyno through just PID gain and FF duty changes. Talked to wedge and we are working out on scheduling a dyno tuning session for the turbos for a flash only tune. I'm looking at adding a mass airflow sensor to my DAQ system to confirm air mass being pushed by the turbos and not just what boost they are making and air intake temp."
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  • Proflyer's Avatar
    Today, 01:58 PM
    All, The downloads section is down. Sticky said he's working on it, but I finally got my hands on a BT cable and want to do a BMS flash on my 335xi. I just want a nice pump gas flash, and I want to hopefully fix the cat codes we get from running catless DPs. I believe that's possible. I'd like to turn off the auto-clear on the JB4 so if anything ELSE pops up I can see it. Does anyone have a mirror link/drop box link with all of this that they're willing to share? Also, any directions would be very nice as well. I can't seem to find much. Thanks! -Proflyer
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  • Malloy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:14 PM
    Hello all, I'm happy to say that my car is getting close to being 'done' so it's time for a thread! Basics: 2005 M3 Silver Grey Metallic 6MT Sunroof Delete Impuls / Anthracite Cloth (Manual-Heated Seats) Bi Xenon Bought with 53k miles in early 2013, currently at 71k. Car was a daily till last summer when I bought my F31 328d. The rear subframe points still look good. Updates: Dinan Muffler Black Grilles Total 10W60, BMW Coolant, Pentosin MTF2, BMW 75W140 OEM VANOS Hub - Exhaust Uprated VANOS bolts - 12.9 Drilled VANOS disc ARP Rod Bolts Coated Rod Bearings VAC High Volume Oil Pump VAC Underdrive Pulleys OEM Battery ST XTA - Single Adjustable Coilovers Stoptech BBK - ST60 380mm Front, ST40 355mm Rear, 309 Pads and SS Lines Advan GT Forged Wheels - 18x9.5 et22 18x10.5 et24 Machining & Racing Metal Black Finish (manufactured by RAYS) Project KICS R40 REVO Lugnuts Michelin Pilot Super Sport - 245/40/18 275/35/18 Whiteline Lollipops DINAN Monoball RTABs UUC SSK w/ DSSR OEM Euro Front Bumper Cover (installed but not pictured yet)
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    Today, 02:59 PM
    88atlas07 started a thread upload test in Test Section
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  • Dietcoke's Avatar
    Today, 12:15 AM
    Newest revision 3" Catless VRSF downpipes (v2). We made a little extra clearance in two spots where it was a little tight to the subframe (you can see in the photo). No issues. Going back to stock. 220 shipped in the USA
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    Today, 05:59 AM
    EthelProps, we appreciate you taking the time to join.
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    Today, 02:37 AM
    Welcome TAYLOR, take a look around, I think you will like what you see.
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  • Dietcoke's Avatar
    Today, 12:15 AM
    Dietcoke started a thread For Sale: Cobb AP V3 N54 Tuner in Buy/Sell - Parts
    Cobb V3 for N54, unmarried, still has the plastic cover over the tuner itself and original box, etc. Car going back to stock. $670 shipped firm, wont find a better deal around.
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    Today, 03:57 AM
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    Welcome Tim603, take a look around, I think you will like what you see.
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  • Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
    Today, 09:00 PM
    Ouch, phone nunber public forum, very bad idea. That is what PM is for.
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  • Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
    Today, 08:57 PM
    Made a complete fool out of us? Bahahaha. Please, please by all means, lets see these AT LEAST 2 times, we were made fools. I think by complete fool, you would mean, trying to post misinformation to such an extent he was driven from a forum. It was explained to him multiple times, that his turbos would not work, and he could expect around 600WHP, he scoffed, now he has 610WHP. He had to lower his inlet price by almost half as people realized he was selling $100 worth of readily available parts for $450. These results are concrete proof of even with us trying to coach him out of building these the way he did. He thought he knew better, well now he has to eat crow, and try to figure out what went wrong. I know what went wrong, but lets see if he can figure it out. For him to fix it, will mean a MUCH more expensive process for him, meaning his price will go up, meaning his "cheap" kit is not so cheap anymore. Well for what you are getting it became clear today, its not very cheap even as it stands. He made a huge fuss about all the data he was going to collect. Then he went out and bought the absolute cheapest sensors, and data logging system he could find. His Data does not line up at all with known data for this motor. Basically everything he did is moot, from the turbos, to the data. He has to start from scratch, and try to figure this out. We will see if he does, or if his foray into being a home turbo builder, has come to a close, as he is clearly in over his head. Basically, you can make the same power on normal Stage 2's, with proper fueling, and boost for $800 less then his current price, and not move anything around. Oh yeah I almost forgot, that part about him making a fool out of us. Please find, and post, would love to take a gander...:) Cheers!
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  • beyondriddick's Avatar
    Today, 08:54 PM
    I'm in San Diego. 135i. Have Motiv Clutch and mfactory Differential as well as FBO. Let me know. 424-645-7152
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  • Cortez08's Avatar
    Today, 08:46 PM
    MM seems like an honest guy working hard to make a name for himself and move the platform forward. He has made a complete fool out of Vargas at least 2 times that I can remember so this thread comes as no surprise.
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  • BoostDr's Avatar
    Today, 07:52 PM
    Another quality product at a great price point, nicely done Mike!!
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  • BoostDr's Avatar
    Today, 07:45 PM
    Clearly not the expected numbers given the boost levels, no matter what the fuel, meth etc. Either way, if you're that far into the game money-wise, it only makes sense to me to spend the extra 100 bucks for a system that has proven itself with real numbers on less boost and timing. Keep up the good work Tony, and if others want to hate, they can look at the "scoreboard."
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  • pr3ci5n335i's Avatar
    Today, 06:49 PM
    Anybody here from SoCal that has a MT (upgraded clutch) N54 and is currently FBO, BMS tuned (JB4/BEF), and using either a mix of E85 + Meth or running PI and wants to run Pure N54 stage 2?
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  • Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
    Today, 06:45 PM
    I had a pretty shitty day actually, but I did get 2 sets of 2+ out the door, and the two stage 3 kits, so it could have been worse. Were taking our annual holiday start tomorrow. I should be hooking up the boat, jet skis in a little while, and heading out to the lake for some much needed R&R. I prob shouldn't have made this thread, but the guy really erked me when he posted the misleading inlet results, and made thread, after thread about how awesome his turbos were going to be. I mean shit, our first N54 turbos didn't perform as expected, it happens sometimes when you are new to a platform.
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  • Legionofboom's Avatar
    Today, 06:26 PM
    I dont think he's in the right for attacking vendors as you say, obviously, but two wrongs dont make a right. The results speak for themselves, the rest is you just trying to bash him, You have to be the bigger guy, the better person, and not lower yourself down like this. We have talked before and you seem like a genuinely good guy. Just relax a bit, sounds like you had a bad day. Also, No i don't want tracking numbers, I want to see your Stg 3, e85+PI and punisher motor results. (like everyone else). You don't need to be a dick about it.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 06:12 PM
    Looking forward to seeing this option hit. Pure Turbos stuff is pretty damn impressive in the N55/S55 sphere.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 06:05 PM
    Tony's product is better and has better results. I kind of feel the for the guy as Tony feels he attacked him so obviously he put this up to show how he came up short. However, he feels like Tony attacked him and that the 'bigger' vendors pushed him around. He's trying but effort isn't good enough for most of you and that's fine. People want the best for their money.
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  • Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
    Today, 06:02 PM
    Actually yes, two stage 3 kits shipped out today to Spain. Would you like tracking. Guess that ends the Stage 3 talk right? Since this is exactly what this guy deserves for thinking he can attack every current vendor, and claim he is an expert. The best part is, he has no idea why they are not working, he was 100% sure they were going to strap down and lay down 700WHP. Thats the scary part, he is building turbo upgrades for people armed with information he learned on the internet, not from experience.
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