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  • fastgti69's Avatar
    07-26-2014, 09:25 PM
    fastgti69 started a thread VM Top Mount ST Dyno in N54
    Hey guys, sorry for the delay. I know you have all be waiting for this as we have too. Finally had time to strap it on the dyno. Here is the car with the mod list: E90 335i with VM Top mount ST kit, Comp 6465 Twin Scroll turbo. VRSF 7" Intercooler VRSF CP w/ Tial BOV BMS Meth kit w/ Two CM10 Nozzle 255 Inline pump Spec Stage 3+ W/ Steel SMFW Full Stock Exhaust JB4 with BB ST Flash We did some conservative tuning and testing, so these numbers are not even close to max. We used e40 Blend of fuel with 100%Meth. Tested to 26 psi and made 670whp 600wtq. Fuel trims and AFR are perfect where it should be at. We tried to up the boost but I guess that's as far as it can go with the 12 psi wastegate springs. That's the reason why boost starts to taper down near redline. We will redyno again in a couple of weeks with new WG spring and higher boost. Can't thank @Terry@BMS enough for helping us with our kit and tuning. There is no substitute when it comes to tuning your N54, Burger Motorsports is the best. Dyno, Log, and Datazap link: CSV file 26 PSI E40 Blend 100% Meth Dyno Log
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-24-2014, 07:51 PM
    The E30 M3 released in 1985 was designed with DTM (Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters or German Touring Car) racing in mind. The S14 four-cylinder under the hood was designed for professional racing (as M3 engines traditionally have been) where it excelled. The S55 turbo 3.0 liter inline-6 in today's M3 is obviously a much more powerful motor. It is larger than the 2.0-2.5 liter S14 four-cylinder and also turbocharged whereas the S14 is naturally aspirated. The difference on paper is close to 100 horsepower but in practice it is closer to 200 horses as the new M3 is severely underrated. Horsepower is only one part of this story as the E30 M3 DTM car is much lighter and stripped out for the track. The weight difference is in the 1000 pound range based on a 3562 pound curb weight for the F80 M3. Can a chassis design that is over three decades old now compete with a brand new and much more powerful M3? Yes. Not only does the 1992 E30 M3 DTM car compete with the 2015 F80 M3, it beats it around the track. Keep in mind that back in the 80's and early 90's DTM cars actually represented their production counterparts. The E30 M3 does a 1:09.1 laptime around the Hockenheim to the F80 M3 1:13.1. A four second difference which is simply stunning. The new F80 M3 is a great car but it hardly makes the classic M's obsolete. Namely on the racetrack which the BMW Motorsport division used to design their M3's for.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-24-2014, 07:43 PM
    The E30 M3 released in 1985 was designed with DTM (Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters or German Touring Car) racing in mind. The S14 four-cylinder under the hood was designed for professional racing (as M3 engines traditionally have been) where it excelled. The S55 turbo 3.0 liter inline-6 in today's M3 is obviously a much more powerful motor. It is larger than the 2.0-2.5 liter S14 four-cylinder and also turbocharged whereas the S14 is naturally aspirated. The difference on paper is close to 100 horsepower but in practice it is closer to 200 horses as the new M3 is severely underrated. Horsepower is only one part of this story as the E30 M3 DTM car is much lighter and stripped out for the track. The weight difference is in the 1000 pound range based on a 3562 pound curb weight for the F80 M3. Can a chassis design that is over three decades old now compete with a brand new and much more powerful M3? Yes. Not only does the 1992 E30 M3 DTM car compete with the 2015 F80 M3, it beats it around the track. Keep in mind that back in the 80's and early 90's DTM cars actually represented their production counterparts. The E30 M3 does a 1:09.1 laptime around the Hockenheim to the F80 M3 1:13.1. A four second difference which is simply stunning. The new F80 M3 is a great car but it hardly makes the classic M's obsolete. Namely on the racetrack which the BMW Motorsport division used to design their M3's for.
    54 replies | 354 view(s)
  • fastgti69's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:11 PM
    The time has finally come for us to release our kit. We have worked long and hard to achieve our goal, and definitely surpassed all of our expectations. Thank you all for your patience for this kit. For the group buy and special pricing, we need minimum 10 people there is no maximum. We will need a 50% non-refundable deposit to guarantee your spot. Fabrication time will be about 2-3 months maximum, I got 2 months from our fabricator but I will add one more just in case. Anything can happen from delay of materials to parts etc. Once fabrication is complete for manifolds/DPs anything that is made in house, we will ask for the rest of the 50% for other parts from manufacturers, such as turbo/wastegates etc. We will always update this thread with pictures and videos as well. Turbos are from Comp Turbo to fit all your hp needs. From 600hp-900hp rated turbos for this kit. Billet wheel, with Triple ceramic Ball bearings. CT4x-5562---600hp CT4x-6262---700hp CT4x-6465---800hp CT4x-6765---900hp Price Shipped to continental US is $6400. Anyone out of US, just PM for shipping pricing to your specific country. If you are local, we can do the kit for $7000 installed in house with all fluids/ Misc.parts etc. (Applicable Tax) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. PM or Email for any inquires about the kit or payment/policies. VenturaMotorsports@yahoo.com Product info: What separates us from the competition is that we use nothing but the best materials and processes to bring you the customer, the best possible product. All of our manifolds are constructed from 316 Sch40 stainless steel tubing. The manifold is back purged throughout the entire welding process to ensure each weld has full penetration. We used teardrop wastegate ports to ensure you have control over your turbo, whether you want to run 10psi or 35 psi. We use low angle merge collectors made in house to promote optimal flow and keep velocity up. The runner lengths are kept as close to equal length as possible. This all translates to more horsepower with a broader powerband, and faster spool that retains stock-like low end torque. Lifetime Warranty on manifold and downpipe to original buyer. This kit comes will all necessary hardware needed to run this on your car. From turbo to manifold, to coolant reservoir relocate bracket. All little bits and pieces are fitted to perfection for your BMW. We recommend having supporting mods for this type of power joined with Burger Tuning (JB4) for the tune as we will provide MAC solenoid with AN lines and fittings for guarantee leak/problem free tuning and logging. - T4 Twin Scroll Manifold - 3" Vband Two Piece Downpipe Split to bolt onto stock location. - Coolant/Power Steering Reservoir relocate bracket, wires, hoses. - Turbo to intercooler chargepipe, all silicone hoses and clamps. - 4" K&N Filter - Turbo Blanket - MAC Solenoid with AN fittings/lines to guarantee no boost leaks. - Billet CNC Coolant outlet, with new hose for water pump. - All oil feed/drains and plugs with shielded hoses. - Twin Tial MVS wastegates with all springs and external dump Tubing. - Comp CT4X Turbo of your choice, Billet wheel, triple ball bearing.
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  • Terry@BMS's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 05:13 AM
    We've got the Vargas Stage2 N55 turbo running on our 2011 135i DCT car and was finally able to hit up the dyno for a little tuning today. The vehicle is FBO but equipped with a CPE replacement catted DP. We've recently modified both the E series N55 ISO JB4 firmware for large turbo support and developed an entirely new back end flash. To enable the JB4 large turbo maps you just enable the 3.5 bar TMAP sensor using version 5.5 or later. This changes map 1 to 16psi, map 2 to 19psi, and methanol mapping as high as your turbo will take you. All with reduced taper to redline to let the larger turbo shine. Dyno testing was done on simulated 93 octane (91 + 1 can of NOS octane booster), and the methanol testing was done with a single CM10 nozzle. Overall very pleased with the results especially for an odor free vehicle. The pump map is a touch aggressive but really showcases what the turbo can do. On pump gas I think the car would come very close if not take our F80 M3 if the M3 is running the stock tuning. And on meth would come very close to the M3 on the E30 map.
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  • triggz's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 12:41 PM
    triggz started a thread Wedge Log vs V8Bait Log in N54
    Since nobody wants to post a log of Wedge's flash showing all 6 cylinders I decided to show the results. Car is running FBO+100%Meth+94 Oct. I asked Wedge for a Pump/Meth map and he sent me a map stating 12.5* of timing. I figured it's aggressive but safe based on my mods. I logged it and it looked great, BEFORE 6cylinder logging was available. Tested it out again and the results were not impressive. First off, it clearly shows the map is targeting close to 14* of timing which is way too much for 94/Meth. It's safe to say you need E85/Meth/FBO to run this type of tune. http://www.datazap.me/u/triggz/wedge...25-26-27-28-29 Now here is the tune I run on a day to day basis which is much smoother while cruising and the car responds well post shift. http://www.datazap.me/u/triggz/v8bai...25-26-27-28-29 I'm sure if I dropped the additive to 50 from 60, the logs would be even cleaner or adjust auto shift boost reduction. Going for a dyno session this saturday and I will test Wedge's map with a 50 additive, 55 additive and 60 additive along with V8Bait's map 50/55/60 and see if the added timing really produces the results that everyone's butt dyno claims to be feeling. Just be careful what you guys are running out there. You can't just load a tune without logging. I'm sure Wedge's map could be adjusted so that it looks cleaner but he's so busy that I rather not waste my time. FYI, I NEVER had an ugly log with BMS maps. I personally think they are the safest and most reliable Bimmerboost maps you can use for your car.
    34 replies | 911 view(s)
  • MFactory's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 04:51 PM
    Hey guys, with the success of our LSD's (and upcoming final drives), we were interested in introducing more of our product range to the BMW market, and was just wondering if there would be a general interest in our other products: - 1pc Chromoly Racing Flywheels. Made from imported Japanese SAE 4140 Steel. These are Forged, Double Tempered and Super Sub-Zero treated for unsurpassed toughness, with a proprietary surface treatment for increased surface hardness - Hyper-Series Clutch Kits. Lightweight Stage 1 clutch kit with 6-puck sprung carbon metallic disc, coupled with our Racing Flywheel. Rated to approx. 400lbft. Image to come - Spherical-joint Front/Rear Camber and Rear Trailing Arms. These use our specially designed "sealed" spherical bearings, which have self-lubricating teflon lined inners (so do not need lubricating) and a genuine 100% seal from the elements; not just a cheap rubber seal that can be ripped off. Not only do these allow for full 360deg movement, essential in a race environment, they can also be used safely on the road without fear of binding due to the elements. Image to come - Racing Axles. Axle Shafts & 10% larger 6-Ball CV Joints are Forged from High-Nickel Chromoly Steel (300M) & put through our proprietary heat treatment process. Their hollow center shaft core (i.e rifle-bored) reduces rotational weight by 30%! Come with our full Lifetime Warranty Let me know if you have any questions :)
    27 replies | 578 view(s)
  • richpike's Avatar
    07-24-2014, 02:06 PM
    In general, since we are all automotive enthusiasts here, I imagine we are all pretty good drivers. Sadly, that just means we are in the minority. I try to rarely complain, but I finally had to put together a list of my biggest frustrations while driving :angry-banghead: Agree? Disagree? Other additions? -Rich In priority order: 1. People who lolligag in the lefthand lane. After you pass, get back over. 2. People who don't secure their loads. See exhibit A. 3. Not understanding the proper way to merge. This includes both merging on to the highway, but also merging when lanes end say for construction. 4. Not passing a police officer/highway patrolman. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who refuse to pass a highway patrolman, even when the officer is cruising well under the speed limit. I have to imagine this is some sort of game/stress reliever for POs - let's see how slow we can go without people passing us. :facepalm 5. Not turning right on red. I realize this isn't legal everywhere, but for the areas it is, for the love of God, turn when the coast is clear. 6. Tailgating. I hate tailgaters. 7. Rubber necking at accidents. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-28-2014, 12:43 PM
    Well that was pretty fast. As reported last week the M3 / M4 S55 engine control unit has been cracked. Keep in mind this is very early in the flash tuning process of the new M3 and M4 but there are multiple tuners with the ability to flash the ECU out there with many more to come. Jailbreak Tuning posted the first Dynojet results of their flash tune and the result on 91 octane pump fuel is an increase of 20 peak horsepower at the wheels. Obviously peak horsepower does not tell the whole story especially on the newer BMW turbo motors as the gains in the mid-range are in the 50 wheel horsepower range. The torque curve is much fatter and the peak torque figure increases by 42 lb-ft at the wheels. People will obviously being comparing these flash figures to the BMS piggyback tune figures. As of today, piggyback tuning shows greater horsepower and torque gains. It will be interesting to see how these two approaches play out and the way they play out will likely be reminiscent of the N54 tuning scene in which each approach has its place with many people using both for the optimum setup. Regardless, the flash tuning era of the S55 inline-6 motor is officially underway.
    23 replies | 709 view(s)
  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-24-2014, 09:31 PM
    Great runs here courtesy of BenzBoost member Vasily1. We have seen his E63 AMG in action before. As a reminder, he has a prototype Renntech E63 AMG 4Matic M157 turbocharger upgrade on his car which is putting out something in the 850 horsepower range. We have seen some impressive performance from this car including runs with a Lamborghini Aventador as well as a supercharged C63 AMG and another tuned GTR. In this run video @Vasily1 takes on a PP-Performance Stage 2 tuned F13 M6 said to making 740 horsepower. In addition, a Nissan GTR with a quoted 700 horsepower is also in the mix. Thanks to multiple angles and good video quality we get a new view of the action. The M6 and GTR both put up a good fight. The E63 AMG S is the fastest of the trio though consistently managing to open up a gap between it and the other two cars up top. The only run the E63 loses is the very first one where the GTR gets the better start on it but the E63 starts reeling it in. As the other two cars are on stock turbochargers the power and torque advantage here clearly lies with the E63 AMG and it shows. That stated, the GTR and M6 do well against stout competition.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-28-2014, 12:38 PM
    Well that was pretty fast. As reported last week the M3 / M4 S55 engine control unit has been cracked. Keep in mind this is very early in the flash tuning process of the new M3 and M4 but there are multiple tuners with the ability to flash the ECU out there with many more to come. Jailbreak Tuning posted the first Dynojet results of their flash tune and the result on 91 octane pump fuel is an increase of 20 peak horsepower at the wheels. Obviously peak horsepower does not tell the whole story especially on the newer BMW turbo motors as the gains in the mid-range are in the 50 wheel horsepower range. The torque curve is much fatter and the peak torque figure increases by 42 lb-ft at the wheels. People will obviously being comparing these flash figures to the BMS piggyback tune figures. As of today, piggyback tuning shows greater horsepower and torque gains. It will be interesting to see how these two approaches play out and the way they play out will likely be reminiscent of the N54 tuning scene in which each approach has its place with many people using both for the optimum setup. Regardless, the flash tuning era of the S55 inline-6 motor is officially underway.
    23 replies | 318 view(s)
  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 06:58 AM
    Liter plus bikes are pretty damn fast, we know that. Power to weight tends to favor bikes at least stock. This bike is not stock however and is turbocharged putting out 425 horsepower at the wheels on C16. It is basically similar to riding a cruise missile. UGR (Underground Racing) makes some spectacularly fast cars with some of their twin turbo V10 Gallardo's and R8's rumored to be putting out well over the 2000 horsepower mark depending on who you ask. This Gallardo is stated to have '1750' horsepower. Based on a quick power to weight calculation it has around 1.94 pounds per horse. The Hayabusa based on a 425 wheel horsepower number and a ~600 pound weight with fluids and the turbo has 1.41 pounds per horse. The aerodynamics of course favor the Gallardo. So what happens? The Gallardo wins. Why? Well aerodynamics from a roll as stated and probably because it has more power than is being let on. Taking down a Hayabusa on the highway in a car is an incredible feat. A turbo Hayabusa? Well, that requires something truly spectacular. That is exactly what this UGR built Gallardo is.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 10:15 PM
    Big news here from Weistec Engineering who has managed to keep their Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR twin turbocharger development under wraps until now. The Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR as you know has an M155K supercharged 5.5 liter AMG V8 which is based on the M113K supercharged 5.5 liter V8 familiar to us from the W211 generation E55 AMG. Weistec decided to remove the supercharger on the SLR and add a pair of turbochargers in. The Weistec SLR Biturbo system is still under development so few details will be shared at this time. What we can tell you is it will be officially released later this year. Additionally, Weistec will have M155K V8 built motor options with forged internals for those that want big boost. The system will be sold as a package. As far as power figures expect some eye opening numbers when the time comes. The Weistec SLR McLaren Biturbo System is the pinnacle of SLR performance. Cast Inconel manifolds flank the 5.5L V8, supplying ball bearing turbochargers and external waste gates with high flowing exhaust gases. These gases are then routed via 304 stainless steel downpipes, paired with aerospace grade bellows, and connect to the mufflers. The biturboís forced air charge is tri-cooled via an additional intercooler and cooling circuit working in conjunction with the factory intercoolers, allowing for high performance and consistency in any climate. Official Release Fall 2014
    14 replies | 571 view(s)
  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 07:04 AM
    Liter plus bikes are pretty damn fast, we know that. Power to weight tends to favor bikes at least stock. This bike is not stock however and is turbocharged putting out 425 horsepower at the wheels on C16. It is basically similar to riding a cruise missile. UGR (Underground Racing) makes some spectacularly fast cars with some of their twin turbo V10 Gallardo's and R8's rumored to be putting out well over the 2000 horsepower mark depending on who you ask. This Gallardo is stated to have '1750' horsepower. Based on a quick power to weight calculation it has around 1.94 pounds per horse. The Hayabusa based on a 425 wheel horsepower number and a ~600 pound weight with fluids and the turbo has 1.41 pounds per horse. The aerodynamics of course favor the Gallardo. So what happens? The Gallardo wins. Why? Well aerodynamics from a roll as stated and probably because it has more power than is being let on. Taking down a Hayabusa on the highway in a car is an incredible feat. A turbo Hayabusa? Well, that requires something truly spectacular. That is exactly what this UGR built Gallardo is.
    18 replies | 123 view(s)
  • Group.america's Avatar
    07-26-2014, 08:39 AM
    Okay not a real kill story but here I am doing a 0-124 mph run and I miss a sweet baby deer by inches (deer runs across at 9s mark)
    12 replies | 338 view(s)
  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 02:41 AM
    Good news for owners of the new Volkswagen and Audi EA888 2.0 turbo motor. APR has released their tuning software for the engine which covers the 2014 up Audi A3 2.0 and the 2014 on MKVII Volkswagen Golf GTI. The software is flashed through the OBD-II port and has programs for 91 octane, 93 octane, and 100+ octane race gas. APR also bumps the redline up to 7100 rpm from the stock 6800 rpm. So what are the gains? The baseline on a MKVII GTI is 210 horsepower at the wheels. On 91 octane with the APR tune this rises to 281 horsepower on the wheels. 93 octane boosts power further with the APR tune taking the car to 291 wheel horsepower. The race gas figure is 303 wheel horsepower. APR did not take the tuned car to the drag strip but did some VBOX performance meter testing. Their 93 octane VBOX trap speed is 97.19 miles per hour. The trap rises to 110 miles per hour with the Stage I tune on 93 octane. This figure will be lower on an actual drag strip as the VBOX tends to read higher. Dynographs and an acceleration video below. Solid work as always from APR. 91 Octane: 93 Octane: Race Gas: Stock vs. tuned acceleration numbers and overlay video:
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  • VargasTurboTech's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:27 PM
    Some girl who lives near my place in LA just posted this, calling the owner out as a megatool... haha. Can we find out who's car this is ...:D
    11 replies | 223 view(s)
  • oldgixxer's Avatar
    07-27-2014, 06:38 PM
    Just hurtin some feelings in Newburgh last night. 2nd run is an 04 ZX 10 (not GSXR). We ran that '73 TT Camaro(76mm turbos,20psi,1500whp,C16,3600lbs) 2 weeks ago for $3k and they wanted a rematch. Stock motor '14 ZX10,pipe/tune/lowered/rider mod I tried to run the Supra,he wouldn't run my turbo bike so he set a run up with my friend instead Enjoy
    10 replies | 442 view(s)
  • bobS's Avatar
    07-23-2014, 09:19 PM
    bobS started a thread E90,E91,E92,E93: Vid: M3 GTS screaming on the nurburgring in 3 Series and M3
    This vid is awesome.... Makes me want to go drive the shit out of my m3
    13 replies | 147 view(s)
  • 135pats's Avatar
    07-24-2014, 08:28 PM
    Howdy all, just got this report back from Blackstone and wanted to see if the gurus had any thoughts on it. The 'stone folks seem to think all is in very good shape, and my rudimentary understanding of oil reports shows everything in pretty tip top shape. But of course I value your thoughts. Fire away! They decided to give me a random home address :facepalm but oh well we can't have it all. Edit: I should add i'm posting this particular report as this is the longest OCI run i've ever done at 6K. No plans to extent it, if anything i'll return to my normal 4K changes.
    11 replies | 311 view(s)
  • Oxide's Avatar
    07-23-2014, 04:22 PM
    Oxide started a thread M50/52 + S50/52: Alternator Relocation in M50/S50/S52/M52 + M20/M30, S14, S38
    Alright so i'm installing an Eaton M90 SuperCharger on my 94 325i. I just bought a 140amp Alternator and will be removing the a/c compressor and replacing it with my alternator. My Supercharger will go where the Alt was, does anyone have any tips for relocating the alt or known if the visionracing alt plate for the m42 will work for my m50??
    14 replies | 151 view(s)
  • Vertigo's Avatar
    07-23-2014, 10:21 AM
    In an attempt to try and contribute as much as I do on N54tech, I wanted to give anyone installing a LPFP a word of caution. Specifically, you 535 guys who have to remove the plastic hose the cuts across the tank over to the drivers side from the LPFP outlet and gets replace with rubber fuel hose. MAKE SURE you use GATES submersible Fuel hose GATES part number is 27093 for 1ft of 5/16 inner diameter. You will need about 18" - 22". If you use any other fuel hose the outside layer will split exposing the braided core and the fuel will escape from the hose. This specific hose must be used.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:46 AM
    The Active Autowerke Level III supercharged M3's continues to impress. This particular M3 runs a full bolt on Cobb tuned Nissan GTR on the highway. The GTR has the Cobb tune, downpipes, a full exhaust system, intake work, and is on 93 octane pump gas. The M3 features the Active Autowerke Gen 2 Level III S65 v8 supercharger system along with a full exhaust setup. It is not stated whether it is on pump gas or race gas for this run. A full bolt on GTR with a tune is a very potent weapon. However, a roll on race between the two cars on the highway assuming similar power should favor the M3. Why? Because it is rear wheel drive, revs higher, and lighter. A run from a stop favors the GTR with its all wheel drive traction and torque advantage. As both cars have a dual clutch transmission that particular area is even. The M3 pulls surprisingly quickly but it also looks to get a jump on the 'two' count. Regardless, it continues its pull. It would be great to see a rematch between these two cars with the GTR on a race gas map.
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  • konvikt21's Avatar
    07-28-2014, 01:52 PM
    Very new to the N54 engine and have been considering options for tuning. Wondering if someone can clarify the capability of bimmerboost flash for me. Can you use OTS maps (such as shivs)? Are there any other OTS maps available that are ready to go? I have been looking for awhile but unable to find such simple info. Thanks In Advance!!
    9 replies | 170 view(s)
  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 04:05 AM
    Audi and Porsche do not really like each other. They have to play nice as Volkswagen owns both of them now but Porsche and Audi each want to call the shots in the luxury segment. As Porsche expands its model lineup it continues to step on Audi's toes. Audi does not like this but Porsche also does not like that Audi made the R8 which definitely targets potential 911 buyers. Each company is taking offense with the other. This in-house battle is increasing as Porsche and Audi both are dumping money into competing platforms. Rather than cooperating each wants to push their own platform. Porsche wants Audi to use its platform for the next generation Panamera for example. Audi wants Porsche to use its platform developed for the next generation Q7 to underpin the Cayenne but Porsche is saying the platform has to many deficiencies including limitations with engine choices. Volkswagen wants everyone in the VW Group to use Audi's design to save costs. Lamborghini apparently is not too happy with Porsche as VW apparently is having Porsche design all the future sports cars in the VW Group. Lamborghini does not like what Porsche has planned for the Huracan successor. Audi who uses the Lamborghini platform for the R8 is also not happy with Porsche's approach so Lamborghini and Audi appear aligned against Porsche. Bentley on the other hand is happy with Porsche and their MSB luxury platform they intend to make use of. Lamborghini wants its own chassis and one designed to accept V10 engines. Porsche is building a chassis around their flat-6 motors which obviously benefits them. Audi uses the Lamborghini V10 so they are with Lamborghini on this one. See the mess? This is what a senior Volkswagen source stated on the matter, "If we donít call the shots here at HQ, Audi and Porsche will never get their acts together. What these guys fail to understand is that they have to cooperate, not fight each other. We need to prevent individual sports car architectures and excessive proliferation, and to make Porscheís MSB mandatory for both brands. Standardize the stuff that is really expensive: drivetrains, electronics, alternative propulsion systems, batteries, materials, methods, and processes. Audi and Porsche must stop fighting over architectures and concentrate on diversification by content. Itís as simple as that. And as difficult.Ē This is a bit of a mess but when so many brands are added into the mix and have overlap it is simply a matter of time before people butt heads. If VW wants to prevent this getting messy they need their executives to step in and dictate who will use what platform. That or they can let the brands compete against each other. Who really wants the same SUV rebadged seven times? It is going to be interesting to see what happens and how this is resolved. Source
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 03:58 AM
    Audi and Porsche do not really like each other. They have to play nice as Volkswagen owns both of them now but Porsche and Audi each want to call the shots in the luxury segment. As Porsche expands its model lineup it continues to step on Audi's toes. Audi does not like this but Porsche also does not like that Audi made the R8 which definitely targets potential 911 buyers. Each company is taking offense with the other. This in-house battle is increasing as Porsche and Audi both are dumping money into competing platforms. Rather than cooperating each wants to push their own platform. Porsche wants Audi to use its platform for the next generation Panamera for example. Audi wants Porsche to use its platform developed for the next generation Q7 to underpin the Cayenne but Porsche is saying the platform has to many deficiencies including limitations with engine choices. Volkswagen wants everyone in the VW Group to use Audi's design to save costs. Lamborghini apparently is not too happy with Porsche as VW apparently is having Porsche design all the future sports cars in the VW Group. Lamborghini does not like what Porsche has planned for the Huracan successor. Audi who uses the Lamborghini platform for the R8 is also not happy with Porsche's approach so Lamborghini and Audi appear aligned against Porsche. Bentley on the other hand is happy with Porsche and their MSB luxury platform they intend to make use of. Lamborghini wants its own chassis and one designed to accept V10 engines. Porsche is building a chassis around their flat-6 motors which obviously benefits them. Audi uses the Lamborghini V10 so they are with Lamborghini on this one. See the mess? This is what a senior Volkswagen source stated on the matter, "If we donít call the shots here at HQ, Audi and Porsche will never get their acts together. What these guys fail to understand is that they have to cooperate, not fight each other. We need to prevent individual sports car architectures and excessive proliferation, and to make Porscheís MSB mandatory for both brands. Standardize the stuff that is really expensive: drivetrains, electronics, alternative propulsion systems, batteries, materials, methods, and processes. Audi and Porsche must stop fighting over architectures and concentrate on diversification by content. Itís as simple as that. And as difficult.Ē This is a bit of a mess but when so many brands are added into the mix and have overlap it is simply a matter of time before people butt heads. If VW wants to prevent this getting messy they need their executives to step in and dictate who will use what platform. That or they can let the brands compete against each other. Who really wants the same SUV rebadged seven times? It is going to be interesting to see what happens and how this is resolved. Source
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  • G0TB00ST?'s Avatar
    07-25-2014, 08:29 PM
    Usually we only stop to watch racing/ track videos, but let's take the time to appreciate this mans driving ability.
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  • zeel's Avatar
    07-25-2014, 06:54 PM
    Friendly pulls in Mexico between two friends of mine. Stock M4 DCT (camera car) vs fbo/e85/meth 335i. 1 passenger each. 40 roll 25 roll (335i starts in 2nd) The M4 owner will have a jb4 soon, so there will be rematch.
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