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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:41 PM
    This race is simply a beatdown. To those that know the cars it should not be all that surprising. Both cars feature tunes from PP-Performance. The C63 AMG Black Series M156 engine is already in a high state of tune from the factory. As the 6.2 liter M156 engine is naturally aspirated and tuned aggressively by AMG there is not much room to gain power on the car. Certainly not as much room to gain with a tune as there is with the turbocharged M4. The cars put out very similar wheel horsepower figures in stock form as the C63 AMG Black Series shows ~430 wheel horsepower on a Dynojet. With a tune this can approach the 460 wheel horsepower range depending on how aggressive the timing is and the fuel quality. The stock torque figure is roughly ~405 lb-ft of torque at the wheels whereas the S55 in the M3/M4 shows 429 lb-ft of wheel torque stock. Once tuned, even with a modest tune, the M4 exceeds the C63 Black Series. Horsepower rises to over 479 at the wheels and torque at the wheels goes to 484 lb-ft. Combine the power and torque advantage with a quicker shifting dual clutch transmission and the M4's roughly 400 pound lighter curb weight and you get the result you see here. Not to mention the C63 AMG Black Series aerodynamics also create more drag. The M4 continues to pull impressively to 175 miles per hour and the C63 AMG Black Series is too far back to even be seen. AMG fans will no doubt be quick to point out that if you boost the C63 AMG Black Series things change in the other direction.
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    Yesterday, 08:38 PM
    This race is simply a beatdown. To those that know the cars it should not be all that surprising. Both cars feature tunes from PP-Performance. The C63 AMG Black Series M156 engine is already in a high state of tune from the factory. As the 6.2 liter M156 engine is naturally aspirated and tuned aggressively by AMG there is not much room to gain power on the car. Certainly not as much room to gain with a tune as there is with the turbocharged M4. The cars put out very similar wheel horsepower figures in stock form as the C63 AMG Black Series shows ~430 wheel horsepower on a Dynojet. With a tune this can approach the 460 wheel horsepower range depending on how aggressive the timing is and the fuel quality. The stock torque figure is roughly ~405 lb-ft of torque at the wheels whereas the S55 in the M3/M4 shows 429 lb-ft of wheel torque stock. Once tuned, even with a modest tune, the M4 exceeds the C63 Black Series. Horsepower rises to over 479 at the wheels and torque at the wheels goes to 484 lb-ft. Combine the power and torque advantage with a quicker shifting dual clutch transmission and the M4's roughly 400 pound lighter curb weight and you get the result you see here. Not to mention the C63 AMG Black Series aerodynamics also create more drag. The M4 continues to pull impressively to 175 miles per hour and the C63 AMG Black Series is too far back to even be seen. AMG fans will no doubt be quick to point out that if you boost the C63 AMG Black Series things change in the other direction.
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    Today, 04:05 AM
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    Today, 03:33 AM
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    Today, 09:16 AM
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:43 PM
    The new Lamborghini Huracan is a sexy piece of machinery. What if we told you its performance is even better than the looks? The Huracan is very fast. Faster than even its big brother the Aventador if going by Car and Driver's test figures. The results are simply eye opening. How about 0-60 in 2.5 seconds? 0-100 in 5.7 seconds. It goes through the 1/4 mile at 10.4 @ 135. Absurdly quick numbers and roughly on par with a McLaren MP4-12C and maybe even the 650S. How does this compare to the big brother Aventador? Car and Driver recorded 0-60 for the Aventador in 3.0 seconds. 0-100 in 6.4 seconds. The 1/4 mile test number is 10.9 @ 133. The Aventador of course is heavier at 4085 pounds than the 3423 pound Huracan. It also handles better thanks partially to the curb weight advantage and smaller proportions. Just like the Gallardo LP560 and Murcielago LP640 the little brother Lambo is more than capable of running with the more expensive big brother. On the roadcourse, the cheaper car is actually the better performance choice. It is hard to argue against the Huracan for driving pleasure. The Aventador of course offers things beyond performance. Still, the Huracan impresses and hopefully we will see a comparison between the Aventador and Huracan recorded at the same time and same place. Test sheets for both cars from Car and Driver below.
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    Yesterday, 11:26 PM
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  • pierce's Avatar
    Today, 07:28 PM
    $95.00 @ Willow Springs Streets of Willow September 7th Extremespeedtrackevents will be at Willow Springs in SoCal- September 7th for a track day, Special track day price of only $95 for the day event DISCOUNT CODE IS (Sow91) Any Questions email sung@extremespeedtrackevents.com Register here- www.extremespeedtrackevents.com Must register before September 5th for the discount Free Basic on track instruction for beginners, All driver levels welcome. Beginners are welcome.Extremespeed will be running special private run groups for beginners who want to get familiar with on track essentials and car control at highway speeds. Free timing for all drivers
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    Today, 08:29 PM
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  • BuraQ's Avatar
    Today, 08:28 PM
    I cant believe this shnit, my stock CP broke today...lmao If Cobb can supply me with the CP C-Clip to the TB then I will buy yesterday. My C-Clip went wosh and I cant find the damn thing only the O ring, or can someone tell me were I can buy the C-Clip from ? Its not a seperate BMW item to purchase
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  • Ensoniq's Avatar
    Today, 08:22 PM
    They sure don't handle like my z06, but as long as you don't nail it and try to turn, they track pretty well. It's kind of hard to describe and not what I expected but up to around 75/80% of max it's stable, predictable, and controllable. Above that and it's too hairy for me to want to risk it. I'm running the 100 octane tune right now on mine and its a perm-smile experience. A legit anytime mid 10 second car that never spins the tires is a thing to experience.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 08:21 PM
    Of course, that is how it should be. However, it is not a law and vendors certainly have more leeway regarding posting about their products as they pay to do so and non-vendors do not.
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  • EvanL's Avatar
    Today, 08:16 PM
    You make a very good point, one that I hadn't thought of before. That said, I believe vendors should show respect on the forums as well. These sorts of progressions should be encouraged, and I'm happy these guys have rethought a known approach and brought it to the platform. Welcome!
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  • Jeffman's Avatar
    Today, 08:05 PM
    Hey, thanks to everyone who chimed in, especially @BuraQ! (Sorry for not replying sooner as I've been on vacation this week.) I had been modifying some 93 octane (E10) tunes with Wedge's help when my E85 station's pump broke and was SOL for a month. I am a happy PTF customer (I was one of the first group-buy guys for E10 when they went live) and I have an introductory PTF E40 map from them to try out, but it's not as "buttery smooth" as I would like it to be. I actually got pretty comfortable with Cobb ATR with Wedge's advice along with V8bait's fine notes in the download section on this forum. For some reason my 3D scalars really need to be jacked up to bring my peak STFTs down into the mid-20s with 93 octane....injectors?...fuel pump?...So now I'm planning to work on my own custom E40 map. Banks 1 and 2 3D scalars are first to be modded. I'd also like to get my max timings up towards 13.5 during WOT 3rd-4th shifting without flatlining (yes, I am an Alpina flashed 6AT) and I was able to tune out the flatlining by reducing some top-end load values. It's really been a lot of fun for me! Surprisingly my LPFP and HPFP seem to be holding up pretty well, still. Only 46K miles. Knock wood! NB - still stock downpipes. I'm afraid the Feds will come after me if I put in kittyless DPs!
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  • Torgus's Avatar
    Today, 07:48 PM
    No shit. Or how the S65 is superior because blah. But please God keep the S65 out of this thread. What blows my mind is that if these results are true why did VTT and RB not figure this out long ago...also any recent purchasers of the upgrades must be pissed to find out their turbo builders knew this was possible all along. Why match RBs if there was a wheel swap that would blow them out of the water?
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  • Torgus's Avatar
    Today, 07:44 PM
    No shit. Or how the S65 is superior because blah. But please God keep the S65 out of this thread.
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